IMing

[13:03] #1: now there's an idea
[13:06] #2: I'm full of 'em.
[13:06] #2: Mostly bad ones...
[13:08] #1: bad meaning not effective or bad meaning evil? because my operating assumption when dealing with you is the latter.
[13:08] #1: ;-)
[13:08] #2: Six of one, baker's dozen of the other.
[13:10] #1: mmmm, not so sure about that. i don't think ineffective evil would be worth my time.
[13:12] #2: And how evil is that?
[13:14] #1: we really needn't concern ourselves with the likes of Moist, because his kind are harmless enough. better to focus our attention on Bad Horse and his ilk.
[13:15] #2: But isn't the evilest of evil the insidious grey of apathy?
[13:15] #2: Which is worse, the villain that wants to devour your soul, or the accountant who denies that you have one?
[13:18] #1: but the only target of Moist's apathy is himself; he doesn't inflict it upon anyone. if someone is effective at spreading apathy, then he's not ineffectively evil.
[13:19] #2: I wasn't referring to Moist, specifically. Just saying that Bad Horse is, perhaps, not the prime target.
[13:21] #1: off-shoot consideration - if an evil foe inspires people to band together to fight for good, is the net effect better than no evil foe at all? some harm that leads to greater good better than apathetic normalcy?
[13:22] #2: People do shine the brightest when there's a common foe to unite against.

That actually makes me sad. It'd be better to shine WITHOUT having some tragedy befalling humanity.
[13:23] #1: exactly
[13:24] #1: which goes back to your point that spreaders of apathy may be the evilest evil of all
[13:28] #2: There ya go.
[13:28] #2: Evil is good.
[13:30] #1: didn't we just define evil, in its worst form, as apathy? so apathy is good?
[13:30] #2: No, no. Garden-variety EVIL is good. Greyish apathy is evil.
[13:35] #1: ah, excellent. let's make the world a better place and go kill some people.
[13:36] #1: enough of this sitting around . . .
[13:36] #2: Excellent!
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[18:50] #1: we have fun being nonsensical that way
when we don't have anything particular to say
more often than not it leads to logic games
but sometimes insights that aren't so lame